1 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:06,710 we all remember the great photos of crew 2 00:00:11,350 --> 00:00:09,040 members chell lindgren and scott kelly 3 00:00:13,350 --> 00:00:11,360 as they ate lettuce on the station and 4 00:00:15,669 --> 00:00:13,360 then scott kelly showed off his green 5 00:00:17,990 --> 00:00:15,679 thumb by showing us beautiful pictures 6 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:18,000 of the zinnias he had grown in space 7 00:00:22,790 --> 00:00:19,760 well all that is thanks to a facility 8 00:00:25,429 --> 00:00:22,800 called veggie i spoke with joya masa the 9 00:00:27,349 --> 00:00:25,439 veggie scientist at kennedy space center 10 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:27,359 to get the latest on the lettuce and 11 00:00:31,349 --> 00:00:29,119 find out what astronauts will be growing 12 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:31,359 next yeah i don't think any of us 13 00:00:34,150 --> 00:00:32,880 expected that 14 00:00:36,630 --> 00:00:34,160 you know we 15 00:00:39,030 --> 00:00:36,640 we think it's exciting but we really had 16 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:39,040 no idea how the general public would 17 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:42,160 respond and i mean we've had media 18 00:00:45,670 --> 00:00:44,160 inquiries from all over the world you 19 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:45,680 know 20 00:00:50,549 --> 00:00:47,840 many many students have been really 21 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:50,559 engaged by it which has been wonderful 22 00:00:55,110 --> 00:00:52,879 and just yeah the general public i think 23 00:00:57,430 --> 00:00:55,120 it came down to the people that like 24 00:01:00,069 --> 00:00:57,440 growing plants the people that like 25 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:00,079 to cook and the people that like to eat 26 00:01:03,910 --> 00:01:02,239 and that's a lot of people so pretty 27 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:03,920 much everybody yeah 28 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:06,720 it was a huge success we learned a lot 29 00:01:09,990 --> 00:01:08,240 and and we were just delighted that the 30 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:10,000 astronauts were able to eat the lettuce 31 00:01:13,109 --> 00:01:11,360 finally 32 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:13,119 did it taste like lettuce 33 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:15,119 well um from what we heard it tasted 34 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:18,240 fresh it tasted a little like arugula 35 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:21,280 some of the the plants in this group get 36 00:01:24,789 --> 00:01:23,200 some more bitter compounds if they're 37 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:24,799 under some stress and they were under 38 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:26,960 some water stress and arugula tends to 39 00:01:31,030 --> 00:01:28,720 be a little more bitter than lettuce so 40 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:31,040 when we heard scott kelly said kind of 41 00:01:34,710 --> 00:01:32,880 like arugula we thought 42 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:34,720 you know that that's really interesting 43 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:36,400 maybe it did get some of those more 44 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:38,320 bitter compounds but i think in space 45 00:01:42,389 --> 00:01:40,320 having that enhanced flavor is actually 46 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:42,399 really desirable so they seemed to 47 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:44,320 really enjoy it there wasn't a lot they 48 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:47,200 didn't get to eat a ton 49 00:01:52,789 --> 00:01:49,920 no and we are still bringing back some 50 00:01:54,550 --> 00:01:52,799 frozen for for scientific analysis to to 51 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:54,560 just confirm so we didn't let them eat 52 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:56,560 all of it but you wanted to like too 53 00:02:01,030 --> 00:01:58,320 right yeah 54 00:02:02,310 --> 00:02:01,040 but probably not frozen 55 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:02,320 hi 56 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:03,759 scott kelly aboard the international 57 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:05,280 space station 58 00:02:11,270 --> 00:02:08,080 i want to go and check on my 59 00:02:13,030 --> 00:02:11,280 flowers i'm growing here in the 60 00:02:15,910 --> 00:02:13,040 columbus module 61 00:02:18,390 --> 00:02:15,920 so after the lettuce 62 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:18,400 they were able to grow the zinnia seeds 63 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:20,160 that we had on orbit and so we'd sent 64 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:22,080 zinnias we weren't sure when they would 65 00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:24,000 be able to eat the lettuce so so we 66 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:25,920 wanted to send a crop that they wouldn't 67 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:27,440 want to eat but that they could enjoy 68 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:29,920 and have have bloom and zinnia is a 69 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:32,160 great model system for 70 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:35,599 longer duration crops like tomato and so 71 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:37,200 this is a really great test for the 72 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:39,040 system to see how it runs under a longer 73 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:41,760 duration and also zinnia is a flowering 74 00:02:46,229 --> 00:02:44,000 crop and so tomatoes will have to flower 75 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:46,239 before they set fruit so seeing how 76 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:48,400 crops flower in the system 77 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:50,080 seeing if there are any limitations on 78 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:52,239 that is really important 79 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:53,840 it's kind of nice to have some flowers 80 00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:56,879 up here you don't see much that is 81 00:03:01,030 --> 00:03:00,000 alive and growing besides the six of us 82 00:03:02,949 --> 00:03:01,040 here 83 00:03:04,470 --> 00:03:02,959 it's had a psychological effect too and 84 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:04,480 i think that's what your hopes were as 85 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:07,040 well right yeah i mean we're very 86 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:08,879 interested to see this and we also have 87 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:10,720 future you know experiments where we'll 88 00:03:15,830 --> 00:03:13,599 actually be evaluating some of that um 89 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:15,840 but just seeing the the the crew 90 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:17,680 enjoyment seeing them take the flowers 91 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:19,360 out move them to different parts of the 92 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:21,760 habitat they they posed with one of the 93 00:03:25,350 --> 00:03:24,000 the first flowers for the 300 day photo 94 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:25,360 and then they put it on their dining 95 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:27,760 table for dinner that night you know so 96 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:30,799 i think it really um shows the impact of 97 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:32,720 having something green and growing when 98 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:34,560 you're living in this environment so far 99 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:36,560 away from from earth and from green 100 00:03:40,229 --> 00:03:38,560 growing things generally 101 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:40,239 so what's next what are we going to see 102 00:03:45,910 --> 00:03:43,599 next growing so next we're sending some 103 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:45,920 chinese cabbage and some more of the red 104 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:47,360 romaine lettuce 105 00:03:51,190 --> 00:03:49,120 the chinese cabbage was actually 106 00:03:54,070 --> 00:03:51,200 selected through a human research 107 00:03:57,190 --> 00:03:54,080 program funded study where we down 108 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:57,200 selected crops based on 109 00:04:01,270 --> 00:03:59,439 how well they grow their nutritional 110 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:01,280 attributes looking specifically at 111 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:03,280 nutrients that are really desired for 112 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:07,280 the space diet and their organoleptic 113 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:09,120 attributes how how the flavor is how 114 00:04:13,429 --> 00:04:11,680 well they taste we actually grew produce 115 00:04:14,949 --> 00:04:13,439 of a bunch of different varieties sent 116 00:04:16,629 --> 00:04:14,959 them to johnson space center from 117 00:04:19,349 --> 00:04:16,639 kennedy where they did the the taste 118 00:04:20,469 --> 00:04:19,359 evaluations at johnson and this chinese 119 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:20,479 cabbage 120 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:22,479 wasn't the most nutritious but it was by 121 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:24,560 far the best horticulturally it was very 122 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:27,040 productive fast-growing plant and it got 123 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:29,440 off the charts um organoleptic 124 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:31,199 evaluations people just love the taste 125 00:04:35,110 --> 00:04:33,199 of it so we think that the astronauts 126 00:04:36,390 --> 00:04:35,120 are going to love this as well 127 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:36,400 we are going to send more of the red 128 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:39,680 romaine lettuce also and those two crops 129 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:42,800 will be sent up on spacex eight um we're 130 00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:44,560 also going to try sending some ranch 131 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:46,320 dressing in the future to go along with 132 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:47,759 our salad okay 133 00:04:51,189 --> 00:04:49,600 yeah so they're gonna need some tomatoes 134 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:51,199 for that salad though when are we gonna 135 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:52,160 see that 136 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:54,080 so over the next couple of years we're 137 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:56,320 working on growing tomatoes in this 138 00:05:01,029 --> 00:04:59,199 system we've down selected also a small 139 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:01,039 variety of tomatoes it's about this tall 140 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:04,400 it's called red robin and it's a cherry 141 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:07,120 tomato and so we will have 142 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:08,960 our next couple of veggie flights we're 143 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:11,039 going to actually be doing experiments 144 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:12,960 and this is something that i'm leading a 145 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:14,639 team from 146 00:05:19,749 --> 00:05:17,840 kennedy johnson purdue university and 147 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:19,759 orbitech orbital technologies 148 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:21,440 corporation that developed the veggie 149 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:24,479 and we're doing light recipes for these 150 00:05:28,950 --> 00:05:25,919 crops so we're going to see what is the 151 00:05:31,029 --> 00:05:28,960 best red to blue ratio to give the best 152 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:31,039 nutrition and flavor and growth of the 153 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:32,880 crops and we're also going to do some 154 00:05:37,029 --> 00:05:34,720 fertilizer testing so we'll do this with 155 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:37,039 chinese cabbage again and then we're 156 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:38,800 going to do this with dwarf tomato and 157 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:40,560 the chinese cabbage will be probably 158 00:05:45,749 --> 00:05:42,880 around the end of 2017 159 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:45,759 and the dwarf tomato will be around 2018 160 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:46,960 time frame 161 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:48,320 we're going to actually have two veggie 162 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:50,320 units up there by that point to be able 163 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:52,400 to do some side-by-side testing what do 164 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:53,680 you think when you saw the martian and 165 00:05:56,790 --> 00:05:55,280 he was growing his own food oh i thought 166 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:56,800 that was wonderful i think it really 167 00:06:01,110 --> 00:05:59,120 raised awareness among you know the 168 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:01,120 general public and nasa as a whole about 169 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:04,080 the importance of food production and 170 00:06:07,749 --> 00:06:05,680 you know getting us to the point where 171 00:06:09,909 --> 00:06:07,759 we will be able to grow a larger 172 00:06:12,390 --> 00:06:09,919 percentage of our diet um 173 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:12,400 and also just the the importance of of 174 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:14,560 having plants you know in in a scenario 175 00:06:19,270 --> 00:06:16,720 when you're on this really desolate you